MPs collaborate with EU Leaders
If this report is true we have got to a very low level in our democratic process.
MPs collaborate with EU Leaders
If this report is true we have got to a very low level in our democratic process.
WE NEED A GENERAL ELECTION – NOW
It appears the HoC has become the government of the UK which surely breaks the electoral procedure relating to the business of government. This cannot be tolerated by the electorate
As I understand it is the duty of the Executive government to propose draft legislation and the duty of Parliament to scrutinise any Bill. If Parliament can take over the role of the Executive who scrutinises the legislation
If a decision by vote in the HoC can bring about neutering a government’s policy to enact a democratic mandate from a Referendum can we be certain that this HoC represents the electorate of the UK. The antics of the last three years demonstrates we can’t.
The delay in honouring the Referendum result and the political party Manifesto commitments during the 2017 General Election means that the electorate cannot trust these MPs who are supporting this new legislation.
What mandate do they have to resist the result of the 2016 Referendum
This legislation will stop a No Deal Exit from the EU, demand a further extension and demonstrates that all along certain MPs have wanted to stop BREXIT
Those who voted for the Bill this week Tuesday are betraying the will and trust of 17.4m voters, in my view actually many more.
We need a General Election so that the electorate are able to exercise their democratic right to vote against those MPs – of whatever political party – who have ignored the 2016 Referendum decision.
We need a whole new raft of MPs in the HoC that reflect the views of the electorate. A government that will honour the mandate of the 2016 Referendum not next year but on 31 October 2019
The HoL needs to be abolished
This is a link to the Bill that was published yesterday and will be debated in the HoC and HoL this week
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1168560598650621953.html
in effect if this Bill – if passed – has an objective to prevent to government from Leaving the EU without a Deal
BREXIT – All the Withdrawal Agreement clauses on Union Law must go
The WA as it currently stands has been totally rejected by the HoC. It cannot be brought forward unaltered. Indeed if at all.
We would like a long term settlement with the EU to regularise our future relationship between the UK and the EU members states. A non tariff, mutual recognition of standards and rules on goods and services Free Trade Agreement
I think most member states would like that too
I noticed that Michael Gove on the Marr Show, when pressed about the WA, said that the backstop must go but he then went on to say that everything in the WA that required the UK to come under Union Law (and that includes jurisdiction of the ECJ) also had to be deleted
Most people will not have read the WA’s 585 pages including footnotes setting out EU Directives and Regulation that the UK will have to comply with. Remember the WA was composed by the EU Commission for a purpose. And that purpose was not to help the UK . Compliance with Union Law is explicitly set out in Article 4 (I cannot understand why this Article has not been given great prominence).
In addition current interpretation of the Withdrawal Agreement comes under the competence of the European Court of Justice (ECJ)
If all the clauses set out in the WA that required the UK to comply with Union Law were deleted this legally binding Treaty would be a different document. The HoC might be able to support it.
The Government no doubt are crawling all over the WA and if following a complete review Union Law Compliance and other related issues such as the NI / I backstop (and essentially Article 4) are deleted we might just be on a settlement path.
A NO DEAL scenario must however be on the table as leaving on WTO terms remains an option. EU member states will then have to trade with the UK but the GATT article 24 can apply until a FTA is sorted out
It is essential that Prime Minister Boris Johnson keeps his nerve, the Cabinet sings the same tune and the United Kingdom leaves the European Union on 31 October 2019
Those MPs who are asking for “No Deal” to be taken off the table are indeed undermining what most voters want and encouraging the EU to continue to resist further meaningful negotiations. The withdrawal of the Whip must be the ultimate sanction
The electorate will support the PM to get an INTERIM deal pending further discussion on a Free Trade Agreement
The HS2 Debate
The following link demonstrates that not everybody is against high speed rail. In order to demonstrate our determination to continue as a global player and attract inward investment we need to treat this infrastructure project as an asset.
HS2 extends to Birmingham and essentially to Manchester and Leeds but serious thought should be given to linking in Scotland, Liverpool and the South West.
We need to modernise our thinking.
Not just rhetoric about Global Britain but ACTION
Northern Powerhouse Partnership sets up its own review into HS2 | Infrastructure Intelligence
This article confirms that the Withdrawal Agreement needs to be ditched
A major new paper has been published by Politeia and Briefings for Brexit, by authors Martin Howe QC (Chairman of Lawyers for Britain), Sir Richard Aikens PC and Dr T.D. Grant: Avoiding the Trap – How to Move on from the Withdrawal Agreement.
The pressing and immediate task of whichever candidate the Conservative Party elects its new leader and Prime Minister will be to achieve Brexit and deliver the results demanded by the 17.4m people who voted to leave the EU in 2016.
That task requires a new start. It should not involve an attempt to renegotiate the Withdrawal Agreement (‘WA’) which resulted from Theresa May’s disastrous negotiations with the EU. Such an attempt would be futile, since the EU has set its face against any ‘reopening’ of the WA. The EU even extracted a formal commitment from Mrs May not to try to reopen the WA as a condition of the European Council decision to grant an extension under Article 50 of the UK’s membership to 31 October 2019.
And negotiating changes to the WA with the EU, and then getting the necessary legislation through Parliament in time to leave the EU on Oct 31, would be quite impossible. The 175-clause implementation Bill (still kept under wraps) is a horror story packed with contentious clauses. It effectively unrepeals the 1972 European Communities Act, and gives supreme status in our own courts to the WA and the EU laws which it would continue to apply to the UK.
The opposition parties and the Tory ultra-Remainers would make havoc – opposing or delaying the Bill in the hope of again deferring our exit from the EU. Or, worse, hijacking it by inserting amendments: such as for permanent customs union membership, or a second referendum. Even on the optimistic assumption that the changes to the WA were enough to bring on board the DUP and the Tory opponents of the WA, it is hard to see that the Bill would ever get through in unmolested form, let alone by Oct 31.
But not having a withdrawal agreement under Article 50 does not mean having “no deal” with the EU.
The WA (of which the Northern Ireland “backstop” Protocol is ‘an integral part’) is just a draft treaty which has been negotiated but not legally agreed. The WA would become legally binding in international law if it were ratified by the UK and the EU Parliaments. The WA contains a series of remarkable features which are detrimental to the UK and which would make ‘Brexit’ illusory:
If the WA were to come into force, even if the UK had nominally left the EU, it would still be subject to all EU laws (including new ones), the jurisdiction of the ECJ, the decisions of EU institutions such as the Commission and EU Parliament, and nor would the UK be entitled to submit ‘proposals, initiatives or requests for information to the (EU) institutions’: WA Art 128(5)(b).
Because Article 184 of the WA requires the UK (and EU) to use best endeavours to negotiate a long term agreement which conforms to the principles set out in the Political Declaration (PD), the UK cannot attempt to negotiate for any future agreement that departs from those principles. A failure to agree a long term relationship in accordance with those principles will mean that the UK is locked into the backstop Protocol terms with no way out and no legal means of complaint. This constraint does not appear to have been appreciated by either Mrs May, her advisors or many of the Conservative party leadership candidates.
There is no requirement that a Withdrawal Agreement has to be concluded in order for a member state to withdraw from the EU under Article 50. Given the position we are in, any attempt to conclude a Withdrawal Agreement should be abandoned. The EU will not agree any changes and the current version will not be agreed by the UK Parliament. Instead, the future PM should concentrate on addressing the longer term relationship between the UK and the EU.
An exit from the EU without a Withdrawal Agreement under Article 50 does not mean leaving the EU without deals of any kind, unless the EU refused to enter negotiations, despite the UK’s willingness to do so.
In the absence of a trade agreement between the UK and the EU, WTO rules prima facie require that the EU must charge its Common External Tariff (CET) on goods imported from the UK and the UK must charge its standard external tariffs (those charged on imports from the rest of the world) on goods imported from the EU. Contrary to common belief, the UK is not obliged to continue to charge tariffs at EU levels – it will be free to reduce them or remove them on sectors of goods where they are not warranted. The UK government envisaged doing so pre 29 March 2019.
Further, and contrary to claims made by certain committed Remainers, the MFN principle does not require that the UK’s customs border procedures need be identical at its ports and airports and at the UK’s only land border, that between Northern Ireland and the Republic. Nor does the MFN principle or WTO rules require customs rules to be enforced by physical checkpoints on the border.
A Civitas study demonstrates that the total value of tariffs charged on UK goods imported into the EU, and subject to the EU’s CET, would be approximately 4.5% on average. This does not amount to a swingeing increase in the price of UK exported goods to the EU. The tariffs borne by UK exports would be less than half the net contributions that the UK makes to the EU budget each year.
The future PM should propose the continuation of zero tariffs on goods between the UK and the EU. The mechanism would be a simple temporary Free Trade Agreement, to apply until a fuller long term FTA can be negotiated and ratified. A draft (complying with GATT rules) has already been prepared by Dr Lorand Bartels of Cambridge University. This simple FTA satisfies the requirements of Article XXIV of GATT, and does not need to be satisfy the additional requirements for so-called ‘interim’ agreements under that Article.
Such an offer would be hugely beneficial to the EU, since the tariffs which would be borne by EU exports to the UK are likely to be more than double those on UK exports in the opposition direction. This is because EU goods exports to the UK are £95bn per annum higher than the UK’s goods exports in the opposite direction, and also because EU goods exports are more highly concentrated in high tariff sectors such as agriculture, clothing and motor vehicles.
Such a bridging arrangement would be preferable to the elaborate and highly constricting ‘transition period’ envisaged by the WA, under which the UK would be subject to all EU laws (including new laws on which it would have no vote) and could not implement any trade agreements with third countries. By contrast, this bridging arrangement would be compatible with the immediate negotiation and implementation of trade agreements with third countries such as the USA.
As for the suggestion that there would have to be a closed land border in Ireland to deal with tariffs, it must be recalled that both the Channel ports and the Irish land border are already fiscal borders for the imposition of VAT and Excise Duties on goods imported into the UK. VAT is currently satisfactorily collected by businesses filing electronic returns with periodic inspection to ensure compliance. The same process can be applied to any collection of trade tariffs (if there are any).
As for regulatory barriers post-Brexit, under the terms of the 2018 Withdrawal Act, the UK’s post Brexit regulations relating to goods will be the same as the EU’s, unless and until divergence occurs in particular areas. Moreover, UK law (the 2018 Withdrawal Act) lays down the default rule of continuing to recognise EU goods as conforming to British standards. There will be no legal barrier against the continued importation into the UK of goods made and certified under EU standards and rules. Stories of ‘shortages’ of food and medicine are wrong.
Arrangements on regulatory recognition are normal between trading countries whether or not they are in any preferential trade agreement such as an FTA. Mutual recognition is mandated by the World Trade Organisation’s (WTO’s) TBT and SPS agreements. Thus the EU will be under both legal and practical pressure to enter into arrangements to continue to recognise UK goods as conforming with EU standards.
As for services, the UK is a net services exporter. There are no current plans to change the rules and standards of UK based services providers, so that the EU has no rational basis on which to refuse recognition. In the financial sector, EU industries’ access to the City is important, if not vital. Under the Withdrawal Act 2018 the default position is that EU-based service providers would continue to be recognised and able to provide services to UK customers unless and until UK rules are positively changed.
As previously mentioned, a zero tariff FTA is hugely beneficial to the EU having regard to the size of the UK’s deficit in goods trade and the way in which EU goods exports to the UK are concentrated in high tariff sectors. It would be entirely reasonable for the UK to ask in return for interim access for goods and services into the EU market for as long as relevant rules remain aligned.
In conclusion: What we have proposed is a better way forward than the WA from all angles. Nobody can guarantee how the EU will choose to react, but if they have any sense and if these proposals are pushed by a determined UK Prime Minister then they present the best chance of an optimal exit from the EU.
Tweeted today
PMs letter to EU refers only to the “backstop”>the whole of the W/Agreement needs to be ditched according to PMs previous s/m’s >Article 4 cannot be part of any Deal where we have to seek permission to LEAVE
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/boris-johnson-to-donald-tusk-the-letter-in-full-2p60cw997
Article 4 of the W/Agreement requires the UK to comply with Union Law (adjudicated by ECJ) during any transition period and thereafter if the future relationship between the UK/EU has not been agreed. Whole WA needs replacing @SteveBakerHW @BorisJohnson @BillCashMP @OwenPaterson
As a matter of principle the government needs to ditch WA, negotiate a new acceptable Agreement that follows a non tariff, mutual recognition FTA>A binding commitment to honour the GFA and a codicil setting out the future relationship between UK/EU
@SteveBakerHW @BorisJohnson
OUR FUTURE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE EU
At last we have a Prime Minister and Government who believes in the BREXIT strategy and who has given a determined and positive approach to bring about exiting the EU and honouring the 2016 Referendum.
We leave on 31 October 2019
For those of us who have been on the corridors of both the Brussels and Strasbourg scenes, who have seen first hand how the widening of EU powers has developed we have been waiting for the moment that the UK Exits to EU
A fundamental difference is the process of law. The UK and Ireland operate under Common Law whereas the EU and member states follow the Napoleonic system of law. There is a fundamental difference. The fact that the European Court of Justice follows the latter process puts us into conflict.
It is a fact however that most financial services activity across the worlds borders operates on a common law basis.
Boris Johnson has made a clear commitment that the UK will EXIT the EU on 31 October 2019. We are now in a position that we should have been in at the end of 2016
To those who still want to remain in the EU they should answer the 17.4m UK electorate that gave a clear mandate that we LEAVE the EU.
WHAT IS NOW NEEDED
A mandate was given by the British people to Leave the EU and the Johnson Government is saying that this will be honoured with a deadline of 31 October 2019
The Withdrawal Agreement is DEAD
There should be no amendments to the Withdrawal Agreement. The 585 pages of this document written by the EU Commission with footnotes covering EU Directives that the UK will have to comply with until the EU gives the UK permission to Leave the EU. Frankly a ridiculous and insulting process coming from an Institution that is NOT A STATE.
The UK is the 5th largest world economy.
We need to have a Free Trade Agreement negotiated and if the EU are going to drag their feet for years we must leave on WTO terms, which means No Deal. We can invoke Article XXlV of GATT to allow that process to take place
(As a caveat the UK must accept that the terms of trade with the EU member states means that goods and services must comply with the standards and rules that operate in those Home States. That means following those standards. In other words for the time being alignment with those EU stands – if a contractor of goods and services wishes to export to the EU member states.
Equally the EU member states will have to comply with the Home State standards and rules of the UK
It is for the reason that the EU members states import more to the UK than we do to the EU member states that both parties require mutual recognition of those standards and rules and an agreement on zero tariff rates. This is where the GATT rules come in.
The government should now come forward with a precise strategy to put to the UK electorate and keep us all advised on the progress of that strategy.
The current EU Withdrawal Agreement is dead, it cannot be renegotiated. It was composed by the EU Commission – all 585 pages written to include footnote references to current EU legislation.
Of great importance is that Article 4 of the Agreement is clear that the UK has to abide by all EU legislation during the implementation period and thereafter until the future relationship between the UK and the EU is finalised. During that period the rulings of the ECJ will apply (scroll back in this Blog for these terms)
We will not be at the Council table to adopt these laws, not in the European Parliament to scrutinise them and adopt them. Not at the Commission table to initiate and enforce these laws.
Some of these laws may be totally against the UK’s national interest.
Article 4 spells out that the UK has become subservient to the EU.
The majority of those who voted to LEAVE wanted the UK to initiate our own sovereign law making process.
I repeat the EU Withdrawal Agreement needs to be totally scrapped
A new arrangement needs to be established and negotiated between the UK and the EU
A Free Trade Agreement needs to be established
A Deal can be agreed if there is the political will
OTHERWISE
We Exit the EU with No Deal
(Can you imagine business and workers in EU member states realising that their goods and services will be dearer exported to the UK.
REMEMBER ALSO EU member states trade with Third countries under WTO terms unless they have agreed a FTA)
Wilfred Aspinall
| This is an interesting Article and confirms all the points I have been blogging about.
The future Prime Minister needs to fully accept that the EU Withdrawal Agreement is totally unacceptable to the citizens of the UK. The Referendum sent a message that the United Kingdom is a sovereign nation and we will not be trapped by such an Agreement Read the following article and if you have time read my previous Posts – especially the references to Article 4 of the Withdrawal Agreement I could concluded that anybody who says they have read ALL THE TEXT of the Withdrawal Agreement really means that they have quickly scanned its text, certainly not understood the implications. As the Article concludes future negotiations with the EU should NOT start by trying to amend the WA nor taking specific parts from it. INSTEAD THE UK SHOULD COME FORWARD WITH A POSITIVE AND DETAILED STRATEGIC POLICY TO -: Establish a meaningful Free Trade Agreement, set out a strategic future relationship between the UK and the EU and establish a relationship that continues our means of cooperation with the EU All that is said the the following Article and in other Posts on this blog are what is needed Wilfred Aspinall Former Member, European Economic and Social Committee, Director Aspinall Brussells (EU Strategy Advisers). Former Chairman of the Forum in the European Parliament for Construction
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